Surely There Must Be a Better God

[SallyF]

This is the biblical god, Jehovah, imaginatively depicted engaging in yet another act of gross genocide.


Fortunately for humanity, the genocidal Jehovah is NEVER shown to be anything other than imaginary, and the tales of Jehovah are NEVER shown to be anything other than people just makin' stuff up.


Can we imagine a better god than Jehovah …?


Have humans ALREADY imagined better gods than Jehovah …?


(For the purposes of this topic, any of the words above can mean just whatever the respondent CHOOSES them to mean.)

[Purple Knight]

This is Wohpe.

Wohpe is a Native American concept of God.

Wohpe is equally as imaginary and real as Jehovah.

Her religion has largely been exterminated by Christianity.

In Lakota mythology, Wóȟpe (less correctly spelled "Wohpe") is a spirit of peace, the daughter of Wi and the Moon, Haŋhépi-Wi. She is the wife of the south wind. When she visited the Earth, she gave the Lakota people a pipe as a symbol of peace. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wohpe

When Jesus visited the planet Earth, he told people to hate each other and he is due back at any moment to exterminate most of us.

Wohpe is WAY better than anything the biblical fictions have to offer.

I really like this one. This is the kind of fiction people would make up to soothe themselves. This kind of god is easy to believe in.

I therefore think that if any of these gods actually exist, it would be the meanest and most spiteful among them.

Why would people make up something to torment them?

[SallyF]

Every one of these God concepts is as real and as imaginary as the biblical Genocidal Jehovah.


It was largely the genocidal conquests of Christians that drove these God concepts to near-extinction.


Every one of these goddesses is BETTER than the Genocidal Jehovah.


Demonstrating that the Genocidal Jehovah is NOT make-believe would dismiss this claim.

[SallyF]

This is the biblical god, Jehovah, imaginatively depicted engaging in yet another act of gross genocide.


Fortunately for humanity, the genocidal Jehovah is NEVER shown to be anything other than imaginary, and the tales of Jehovah are NEVER shown to be anything other than people just makin' stuff up.


Can we imagine a better god than Jehovah …?


Have humans ALREADY imagined better gods than Jehovah …?


(For the purposes of this topic, any of the words above can mean just whatever the respondent CHOOSES them to mean.)

Many Christians no longer take certain fantastical biblical tales literally.


To me, the Jehovah god is just a fantasy figure.

A fantasy figure depicted as a cruel, genocidal bigot.

And gods tend to reflect the attitudes of the people who invent them.

Hindus use the term "God", just as Christians do.

But their notions of "God" are quite different to those of the Genocidal Jehovah.

Hindus - to the best of my knowledge - also use terms like "symbolic", "metaphor", "non-literal" and so forth, in the same way Christians do to explain away the fantastical elements of their religion.

In my view, Hindus have imagined FAR better God concepts than the Genocidal Jehovah.

For example:

Kamadeva, whose name kama (desire, libido) and deva (God) translates as the “God of Desire“. It was earliest referred to in Rig Veda as a colourfull person. “This Kama or desire, not of sexual enjoyment, but of good in general, is celebrated in a curious hymn of the Atharvaveda,� which exalts the Kama into a supreme God and Creator.

Kamadev is often depicted as a beautiful winged youth with greenish skin, he is seated on a parrot and carrying a bow made of sugarcane stalk and strung be a line of bees and accompanied by his wife Rati (sexual desire), Vasant (spring personified) and a gentle breeze. When he shoots an arrow tipped with fragrant flowers will make the target fall in love. Indian Kamadeva is regarded as Roman cupid or the Greek God Eros and is related to love and libido. https://www.ritiriwaz.com/kamadeva-hindu-god-of-love/

God as Kamadeva is PRECISELY as real and as imaginary as God as Jehovah/Yahweh/YHWH/Whatever.

[SallyF]

This is the biblical god, Jehovah, imaginatively depicted engaging in yet another act of gross genocide.


Fortunately for humanity, the genocidal Jehovah is NEVER shown to be anything other than imaginary, and the tales of Jehovah are NEVER shown to be anything other than people just makin' stuff up.


Can we imagine a better god than Jehovah …?


Have humans ALREADY imagined better gods than Jehovah …?


(For the purposes of this topic, any of the words above can mean just whatever the respondent CHOOSES them to mean.)

The above image shows us a human imagining and depicting the Maori goddess Hine Nui Te Po, in just the same sort of way that humans imagine and depict the Jewish god Jehovah.

No god is EVER demonstrated as anything more than the product of human imagination.


In my view, Maori culture has imagined a far more pleasant God concept than Christian-Jewish culture.

[SallyF]

This is the biblical god, Jehovah, imaginatively depicted engaging in yet another act of gross genocide.


Fortunately for humanity, the genocidal Jehovah is NEVER shown to be anything other than imaginary, and the tales of Jehovah are NEVER shown to be anything other than people just makin' stuff up.


Can we imagine a better god than Jehovah …?


Have humans ALREADY imagined better gods than Jehovah …?


(For the purposes of this topic, any of the words above can mean just whatever the respondent CHOOSES them to mean.)

This is Quan Yin.

Quan Yin is a deity - just like the biblical Jehovah.

Quan Yin is noted for her compassion - unlike the genocidal Jehovah.

Quan Yin is every bit as imaginary and every bit as real as the biblical version of "God".

I find Quan Yin a much more pleasant God concept than Jehovah.

And like Gilgamesh and Jesus and others, Quan Yin may have been a genuine historical royal figure around whom a whole religion of imaginative claims was confected by the imaginations of humans who turned her into a god.

[1213]

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This is the biblical god, Jehovah,..

Please explain why do you think that Biblical God Yahweh is in the image? Bible tells God is spirit and love, why do you think God looks like in the image you gave?

God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.
John 4:24

He who doesn't love doesn't know God, for God is love.
1 John 4:8

[SallyF]

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This is the biblical god, Jehovah,..

Please explain why do you think that Biblical God Yahweh is in the image? Bible tells God is spirit and love, why do you think God looks like in the image you gave?

God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.
John 4:24

He who doesn't love doesn't know God, for God is love.
1 John 4:8

The image of the mythological, biblical Jehovah performing yet another act of gross genocide, was produced by the Christians of the Jehovah's Witnesses version of Christianity.

The biblical writings are a contradictory melange of people just makin' stuff up about gods and angels and resurrections and talking donkeys and such.

One propagandist calls the Jehovah god "spirit".

Another propagandist calls Jehovah a "man".

Believers tend to pick out the bits they prefer.

And add bits that aren't there.

Like the Genocidal Jehovah being "LOVE".

The propagandists of the first four biblical books do not bother to say that their genocidal god loves anyone …

But it supposedly exterminated millions of innocent children.

Given that the biblical Jehovah is NEVER shown to be anything other than imaginary (here's your opportunity right now) …

I have shown that humans from NUMEROUS cultures have imagined gods that are far better in many ways than the imaginary, genocidal biblical god.

[brunumb]

[Replying to post 26 by 1213]

"He who doesn't love doesn't know God, for God is love."

That really just amounts to gibberish, no different from the following:

He who doesn't fear doesn't know pumpkin, for pumpkin is fear.
1 bru: 22

[JehovahsWitness]

[Replying to post 26 by 1213]

The image in the OP is from the literature of Jehovans Witnesses and I can assure you 1213 it is not a depiction JEHOVAH at all (we rarely present Jehovan in illustratiive form, and never show his "face").


SOURCE: https://www.jw.org/en/publications/book ... o-prayers/

The image in the OP is an artistic depiction of Jesus executing divine judgement when he returns atnthe battle of Armagedddon.



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[SallyF]

[Replying to post 26 by 1213]

The image in the OP is from the literature of Jehovans Witnesses and I can assure you 1213 it is not a depiction JEHOVAH at all (we rarely present Jehovan in illustratiive form, and never show his "face").


SOURCE: https://www.jw.org/en/publications/book ... o-prayers/

The image in the OP is an artistic depiction of Jesus executing divine judgement when he returns atnthe battle of Armagedddon.

So this imagined act of indiscriminate genocide is being performed by Son of Jehovah (who has been imagined as looking suspiciously like the JW founder, Charlie Russel).

As laughable and gross as this scene of "divine judgement" is to this New Atheist, it nonetheless reflects what is written in what some people call "scripture".

Some Christians sweep this evil biblical stuff under the altar.

And some Christians just make up stuff about Son of Jehovah that ISN'T in "scripture" …






As I regularly point out ...

People just LOVE makin' stuff up in this great big game of Pretend called religion.