JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:23 pm
We can both agree that although Daniel gives us details about the King of the North/South both remain unidentifed in scripture. This does not mean however they are
unidentifiable.
Great distinction. The problem is; we are not any closer to
identifying anything, are we?
JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:23 pm
Perhaps your position that Daniel 11 is of no use to to anyone as it cannot be related to any reality we or anyone has or will experience or that God intended it to have no meaning or for its meaning to be an eternal mystery, but that is not our position.
We do not hold it to be wrong to try and understand Daniel 11? We view it as prophecy and believe we should be on the lookout for how prophecy is fulfilled.
Gotta give props when it due...great points.
But it doesn't come with problems (as usual).
Because you see, anyone can say anything, and believe anything.
However, the devil is in the details. I am asking for the DETAILS as to why it (Daniel 11) is being interpreted that way...and I am just not getting it.
JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:23 pm
No offense intended but Jehovahs Witnesses are not overly concerned with human expectations, we are primarily concerned with divine expectations. Scripture does not indicate that infallibility is one of them. We propose bible based interpretations with no assumption of infallibility.
I mean, all I ask is for "God's organization" be accurate in what they interpret. That seems like a very fundamental expectation of God's chosen elect, doesn't it?
If God choose person A to be his prophet, shouldn't I expect person A to give
accurate prophecies?
You guys are the ones who set the bar high for yourselves, going around saying that you are God's chosen organization on earth.
If a guy is going around saying that he is a certified cardiologist, I at least expect him to know what a stethoscope is, and how to use it.
Now, I ask again, what does Daniel 11 have to do with the current Russian/Ukraine conflict?
(unfortunately there's no Grimm Reaper smilie available) Russia is being used by god to fulfill prophecy (who god can't do its own dirty work is another raging question, but it's not the first time we hear this from biblical 'know-it-alls' like patty).
