Alright, Jehovah Exists - Why Worship Him?

[Purple Knight]

Let's assume the God of the Bible exists. Taking aside that he has named himself God, why is he God?

What makes an entity God?

And if this entity exists, why worship him?

[JehovahsWitness]

Why? Why would you conclude the above was evidence of racism?

It fits the definition:

racism (n)
"prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized."

No it does not. The people of pagan nations were not destroyed because of their ethnicity, they were destroyed because of their behaviour.

ACTS 10:34, 35

Then Peter began to speak: "I now truly understand that God does not show favoritism, but welcomes those from every nation who fear Him and do what is right

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[Diagoras]

No it does not. The people of pagan nations were not destroyed because of their ethnicity, they were destoyed [sic] because of their behaviour.

The instruction was to "slay both man and woman, infant and suckling" so for your claim to be valid, there would have to be evidence of bad behaviour from every member of the group. What did the infants and sucklings do?

[JehovahsWitness]

No it does not. The people of pagan nations were not destroyed because of their ethnicity, they were destoyed [sic] because of their behaviour.

The instruction was to "slay both man and woman, infant and suckling" so for your claim to be valid, there would have to be evidence of bad behaviour from every member of the group. What did the infants and sucklings do?

Suckle on the wrong women evidently. Like the animals, the children and dependents paid for the wrong decisions of those that were responsible for them but none of this was racially driven (biblically God created the first man and woman from whom all nations came).

[The Nice Centurion]

No it does not. The people of pagan nations were not destroyed because of their ethnicity, they were destoyed [sic] because of their behaviour.

The instruction was to "slay both man and woman, infant and suckling" so for your claim to be valid, there would have to be evidence of bad behaviour from every member of the group. What did the infants and sucklings do?

Suckle on the wrong women evidently. Like the animals, the children and dependents paid for the wrong decisions of those that were responsible for them but none of this was racially driven (biblically God created the first man and woman from whom all nations came).

So your apologetic says, the genocide was not because of ethical backgrounds or race consciousness, but because they were all suckers.
And because your god decided with his objective morality that this people did just suck.

Besides that, your reasons are self contradictory!
First they were destoyed [sic] because of their behaviour, then some of them be ause they sucked, and last not least some paid for actions of the people responsible for them.
But for sucklings that third reason, according to your apologetic, didnt do. They had, of all things to suck milk, to earn their right to get murdered by an objective god who ist Thruth and Love.

Your apologetics here suck for me.

[Purple Knight]

Let's assume the God of the Bible exists. Taking aside that he has named himself God, why is he God?

What makes an entity God?

And if this entity exists, why worship him?

If the God of the Bible does exist - an eternal entity who is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent - I would bow down and worship him willingly. One would be a fool not to.

So you'd worship me if I was omnipotent? Even if I'm a bad person?

[amortalman]

Let's assume the God of the Bible exists. Taking aside that he has named himself God, why is he God?

What makes an entity God?

And if this entity exists, why worship him?

If the God of the Bible does exist - an eternal entity who is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent - I would bow down and worship him willingly. One would be a fool not to.

So you'd worship me if I was omnipotent? Even if I'm a bad person?

Yes. But I would need you to have all three attributes if you don't mind.

[Purple Knight]

No it does not. The people of pagan nations were not destroyed because of their ethnicity, they were destoyed [sic] because of their behaviour.

The instruction was to "slay both man and woman, infant and suckling" so for your claim to be valid, there would have to be evidence of bad behaviour from every member of the group. What did the infants and sucklings do?

Suckle on the wrong women evidently. Like the animals, the children and dependents paid for the wrong decisions of those that were responsible for them but none of this was racially driven (biblically God created the first man and woman from whom all nations came).

So your apologetic says, the genocide was not because of ethical backgrounds or race consciousness, but because they were all suckers.
And because your god decided with his objective morality that this people did just suck.

Besides that, your reasons are self contradictory!
First they were destoyed [sic] because of their behaviour, then some of them be ause they sucked, and last not least some paid for actions of the people responsible for them.
But for sucklings that third reason, according to your apologetic, didnt do. They had, of all things to suck milk, to earn their right to get murdered by an objective god who ist Thruth and Love.

Your apologetics here suck for me.

The main question is whether or not it's acceptable for people to sometimes be punished for things they didn't do. The question is not, should people suffer for what others have done (sometimes they do) but whether it's acceptable for them to be deliberately punished for it.

If (let's give as much charity as possible) you have this evil tribe that gets by through evil, teaches their children evil, and they all end up doing evil... what do you do about that? It's chillingly similar to modern day whiteness. Nobody is at fault for the milk they drink but if it turns them evil, then what? You can either allow the evil because no individual is at fault for how they were brought up, or you can pass judgment on individuals who didn't choose to be born into evil and fed evil from the day they were born.

Arguably an omnipotent God can simply disentangle this, kill off the tribe so their chain of evil ends, and simply not damn any of them, except those that started the chain. But that's something of a cop-out even if it works as an apologetic.

[JehovahsWitness]

The main question is whether or not it's acceptable for people to sometimes be punished for things they didn't do. The question is not, should people suffer for what others have done (sometimes they do) but whether it's acceptable for them to be deliberately punished for it.

Biblically God does not punish anyone for what they did not do, nor does he hold anyone or anything responsible for other people's poor choices. That said, He allows suffering to exist. If children suffer it is not because they are being punished by God but because they are being betrayed by their caregivers.






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[Tcg]

If children suffer it is not because they are being punished by God but because they are being betrayed by their caregivers.

You've just contradicted yourself. In post #73 you were asked:

"What did the infants and sucklings do?"

You answered:

"Suckle on the wrong women evidently."

So, according to you, these nasty little infants who apparently suckled on the wrong women (ignoring momentarily the absurdity of this claim) were punished by God for suckling on the wrong women.


Tcg

[JoeyKnothead]

Exactly, what someone might call "evil"might have some redeeming qualities - so only The One that reads the heart can make such a call. With Satan God has made the call, there is nothing good in him (satan).

Ain't it a good thing to know how we ought'n be?