If this story is true the church members are a bunch of evil psychos who should be prosecuted and the church closed.
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Or they can be actively gay, continue to be Christians, and lead happy and productive lives.JehovahsWitness wrote:
Homosexual activity is condemned in the bible and while someone may always have to struggle with such urges they can break free from a homosexual lifestyle and become Christians and still lead happy and productive lives.
I think it is up to each individual to decide what it means to be a Christian. Likewise, they can decide for themselves whether or not they are convinced they are part of a true Christian congregation.JehovahsWitness wrote:
A person can live with same sex attraction and be a Christian but the bible is clear, one cannot be an unrepentant fornicator (whether it is same sex or heterosexual activity) and be part of the true Christian congregation.
Is this to say that people who ‘respect the bible and believe it is the word of god’ do NOT remarry (if divorced for reasons other than infidelity), do NOT eat shellfish, do not wear mixed fabrics?JehovahsWitness wrote:So people that respect the bible and believe it is the Word of God do not engage it.Zzyzx wrote:As is remarriage, eating shellfish, wearing mixed fabrics. So what?JehovahsWitness wrote: Homosexual activity is condemned in the bible
If a person is not open about their homosexuality can they be ‘one of Jehovah’s Witnesses’?JehovahsWitness wrote: One cannot be one of Jehovah's Witnesses for example, live an openly gay lifestyle as our religion is based on the bible.
Congratulations on breaking free of the lifestyle (if that is what you wanted to do).JehovahsWitness wrote:Yes.Zzyzx wrote:Is this claim based on personal experience, testimonials, ....?JehovahsWitness wrote: and while someone may always have to struggle with such urges they can break free from a homosexual lifestyle
Can one be part of the ‘true Christian congregation’ (whatever that may mean) if the fornicate occasionally (hetero or homo sexual) as long as they ‘repent’ each time?JehovahsWitness wrote:A person can live with same sex attraction and be a Christian but the bible is clear, one cannot be an unrepentant fornicator (whether it is same sex or heterosexual activity) and be part of the true Christian congregation.Zzyzx wrote: Can a person not be a Christian if they are homosexual?
Do you impose your beliefs on children?JehovahsWitness wrote: We dont imposse our beliefs on others but we reserve the same right to voice them as anyone else.
Zzyzx wrote: Is this to say that people who ‘respect the bible and believe it is the word of god’ do NOT remarry (if divorced for reasons other than infidelity), do NOT eat shellfish, do not wear mixed fabrics?
What was the (Mosaic) Law Covenant?
viewtopic.php?p=1027280#p1027280
Was the Mosaic law given to all the nation's?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 43#p964043
Did God give any laws prior to the Mosaic Law covenant?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 74#p843874
Does the bible say the Mosaic law has been "abolished"?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 76#p918176
CHRISTIAN LAW
Does the bible say the Mosaic law has been "abolished"?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 76#p918176
Did Jesus not say he had not come to abolish the law [Mat 5:17] ?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 78#p965278
Does Mat 5:18 not indicate that none of the Mosaic law would ever pass away?
viewtopic.php?p=1042911#p1042911
Did Christ indicate that his death would signal the end of the Jewish obligation to obey the Mosaic law?
viewtopic.php?p=950778#p950778
Are Christians under the Mosaic law?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 76#p950776
Why do Christians wear MIXED FABRICS and eat SEAFOOD yet prohibit homosexual acts ?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 72#p996772
Which of the hundreds of laws given to Israel are Chritians under?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 40#p976140
Did Jesus instruct NON-JEWISH believers to observe the Mosaic law?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 43#p964043
Did Jesus indicate he came start a "new" religion ?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 45#p792645
Why did Jesus only introduce the notion of his sacrificial death towards the end of his ministry?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 38#p962638
Should Christians worship on Saturday or Sunday?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 82#p918182
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Zzyzx wrote:
Do you impose your beliefs on children?
Pretty convenient – anyone can ‘follow the rules’ if they can pick and choose which ones apply to them.JehovahsWitness wrote: (dietary and fabric laws were part of the Mosaic Law which we do not believe Christians are under).
I absolutely DO NOTJehovahsWitness wrote:Do you?Zzyzx wrote: Do you impose your beliefs on children?
I guarantee that we do NOT have similar attitudes toward parental rights.JehovahsWitness wrote: I suspect that we both have a similar attitude to parental rights,
That is exactly my position. When a parent has done the above they have done their job well.Zzyzx wrote:
My position is that parents have an OBLIGATION to equip (teach) their offspring to deal effectively with the real world we inhabit (not just some cloistered environment) and to use their power of reasoning and judgment to decide the best course of action for themselves as soon as they are able (without indoctrination). This includes teaching children the mores of their overall culture – not limited to some in-group attitudes and limitations.
Who are you to tell me or anyone else what I may claim and what I may not claim. Your not the boss of me and the last time I looked freedom of speech was a basic human right.Zzyzx wrote: ...and, above all, stop claiming knowledge of proposed supernatural entities