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Replying to POI in post #4164]
We have brains,
Indeed, we minds do have brains...
we know the origin of our thoughts comes from our brains.
We do not
know this - some assume this.
As was pointed out, brains are simply machines which do not have thoughts, any more that Chat GPT (or any other LLS) has thoughts...
Anything beyond that requires faith to further demonstrate.
What has been "demonstrated" which tells us that brains "have thoughts"?
Why should anyone believe an external mind is feeding their internal mind, in any capacity?
No one "should" or "shouldn't". There is no reason why someone "should" believe in position (4), either.
This would mean you reject the position that humans have physical brains, which is where our thoughts come from.
Humans do have physical brains. I reject the claim that brains are where our thoughts come from, since the claim itself hasn't been demonstrated to be the actual case.
(1) (2) and (3) are similar in that they all three argue for some "external mind" communicating with internal minds or (human brains).
(3) has it that
all mindfulness is of The Creator Mind so minds within TCM, (as all minds are) can hold the perspective that TCM is "outside" of their minds, but this is an incorrect perception, based upon misinformation.
This is why religious script (Bible) often advocates the individual mind aligns with/draws close to/perceives/acknowledges/identifies with TCM. (John 10:30)
No. With (3), physical human brains are simply seen to be otherwise mindless meat-mechanisms/devices which mindfulness uses. Meat-based brains (like silicon-based brains) do not have minds of their own, separate from the mindfulness which uses them so cannot be "communicated" with in any manner.
So, the 'TCM' does communicate with the physical human brain.
No. The interaction TCM has with human minds is the communication. Human brains are not able to communicate any more than any other machinery can be communicated with. You cannot communicate with your computer, so why do you think you can communicate with your brain, or that TCM communicates with brains?
According to you, it uses the human brain as some sort of a proxy or transport vessel to exchange information.
It is not the proxy or transport or vessel which is exchanging information, any more than this is what is occurring between you and I. We are communicating. Not as brains but as minds. We are minds communicating. Human brains/bodies are simply the mechanism we use to do so. You are conflating the idea that you are the brain/body, which is why you are confused about (3).
Now all we need to do is identify this so-called 'TCM'? Is there a way to do this without relying upon faith?
In this sense, your position is that of Philips'. (John 14:9) The information has been made available to you, (as it was made available to Philip) but you fail to see it and thus ask to be shown it.
One does not "rely on faith" but on
knowledge - and not just on knowledge, but also on how the knowledge is processed by us minds re how any/all knowledge is defined.
(Like you defining the knowledge of mindfulness to being emergent of brains - see my signature for more about that.)
Since the physical human brain is a mindless meat-mechanism, this would mean each and every thought does NOT originate from it
That is just how you are defining things here.
The physical human brain is not "mindless" as long as there is mindfulness occupying it. Even so, it is the mind occupying it which is mindful and where certain thought originates from and by extension (where individual human minds connect and interact with TCM) all true thought originates.